The RocketPD Podcast

Episode 12: Voice & Choice: Using PBL to Help Kids Own Their Learning (w/John Spencer)

A conversation about designing projects that move beyond surface-level activities toward deeper thinking, creativity, and real audiences.

Episode: 12
Duration: 32:55
Published: April 29, 2025
Hosted by: Corey Murray
Featuring: John Spencer

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In this episode

Projects with purpose

John Spencer discusses the difference between project-based learning and end-of-unit activities that add work without adding meaning. The episode considers how student-centered projects can support creativity, problem solving, and ownership.

About this episode

In Episode 12 of The RocketPD Podcast, Corey Murray speaks with John Spencer about project-based learning, student ownership, and ways to design projects that connect learning to real problems and audiences.

Who it’s for

Teachers
Instructional coaches
Principals
Curriculum leaders

What you’ll explore

Distinguish project-based learning from add-on projects.
Explore voice and choice in project design.
Consider authentic problems and audiences.
Reflect on how projects can support student ownership.

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